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	<title>Comments on: Bird Song: A requiem for DRM</title>
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		<title>by: Pin Bender</title>
		<link>http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/08/24/birdsong-a-requiem-for-drm/#comment-58265</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Having been in the music support business for 40 years, One thing has always impressed me:  The fact that the most "popular" artists are seldom the "best" artists. The more popular artists have generally learned how to please the audience, which certainly makes the concert more enjoyable.  It is a historical fact that the recording companies are very skilled at screwing the artists as much as possible.  I understand from his son that Mario Lanza for instance from the 50s made millions for the producers from his many movies and recordings, yet left his family with some $6 million in debt after his untimely death at the height of his popularity.  Interesting, isn't it?  Who is the thief here?  This sort of thing is not that unusual from what I understand. 

What I hope for from the internet, etc is that many wonderful artists will become known and loved because the wide distribution of their music.  I think that prospect scares the media companies more than most are able to contemplate.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been in the music support business for 40 years, One thing has always impressed me:  The fact that the most &#8220;popular&#8221; artists are seldom the &#8220;best&#8221; artists. The more popular artists have generally learned how to please the audience, which certainly makes the concert more enjoyable.  It is a historical fact that the recording companies are very skilled at screwing the artists as much as possible.  I understand from his son that Mario Lanza for instance from the 50s made millions for the producers from his many movies and recordings, yet left his family with some $6 million in debt after his untimely death at the height of his popularity.  Interesting, isn&#8217;t it?  Who is the thief here?  This sort of thing is not that unusual from what I understand. </p>
<p>What I hope for from the internet, etc is that many wonderful artists will become known and loved because the wide distribution of their music.  I think that prospect scares the media companies more than most are able to contemplate.</p>
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		<title>by: Tristian</title>
		<link>http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/08/24/birdsong-a-requiem-for-drm/#comment-26826</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/08/24/birdsong-a-requiem-for-drm/#comment-26826</guid>
					<description>Its good to know that DRM (Digital Restrictions Manager) is not implemented in Redhat or any other GNU/Linux distributions I can think of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its good to know that DRM (Digital Restrictions Manager) is not implemented in Redhat or any other GNU/Linux distributions I can think of.
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		<title>by: feindblut</title>
		<link>http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/08/24/birdsong-a-requiem-for-drm/#comment-24337</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 09:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/08/24/birdsong-a-requiem-for-drm/#comment-24337</guid>
					<description>confusion:
you buy an album by X shop and it will play 100 times.
you buy an album by Y shop and it cannot be recored.
you buy a move by Z shop but it can be copied 3 times, but just on special dvd.
You downloaded an adware-album by D shop but you have to login again on their site to be able to maintain the license.
nice collection isn't it?

cross platforming:
that X mp3 is not playable on linux because of patents on mp3 format in the USA
that Y mp3 is not playable on winodws because of some incompatibility problem (random!)
that Z mp3 cannot be played on other players but Ipod of the moment
that D mp3 cannot be downloaded\played because the software for download\playing is not available for V operative system
how many OS\device must I have?

distribution:
Major X has just removed your X favourite artist from the site you have an account because they want a different DRM
Major Y has just removed your X favourite movie from the site you have an account because they want to make money by themselves
Major Z has just removed your X favourite band from the site you have an account because few was downloading it or for any other reason you don't have to care about
how many account you need to do?

privacy:
An X operative system notice that you changed a lot of hardware. you have to re-activate.
An Y file is found shared on the net. A unique serial number say You, Mr. X Y, are the first seeder of it. Get a good advocate.
A Z DRM system installs S rootkit full of vunerabilities without your agreement. You always need their agreement but they don't.
your Y flat internet contract has been found downloading "too much"; you're banned and have to refund the ISP (this is also DRM too, they decide your "rights")
You buy D phone, but you have to use it as it has been designed for, otherwise it will stop at all. Sorry you can't use it like an vibrating ... probe. Not allowed.

financing who?
maphia. (corporation, politicians, Internet service providers..)

now I'm bored of writing.
DRM SUX, badly.
It's firstly a matter of freedom, then of interoperability, respect, and mind sanity.
A guy with self-respect just don't choose DRM.
Who likes the ARTIST doesn't buy DRM: why?
You are financing MAJORS, not artists. Majors just wan to make money using artists work, abuseing you, your money and your time, making evil pacts with other corporations and powerful politicians.
Are you blind or something? Just analize reality and you see DRM is just a part of the BIG BROTHER \ MASS CONTROL project.
Care about your freedom, your RIGHTS! 
right to have fair use, right to share it with your family, right to make a backup copy. DO THEY RESPECT YOUR RIGHTS? NO.

NOT TO MENTION THAT YOU ALREADY PAY FROM YEARS "EQUAL FEE", which by itself should be already enough to make your free to use their media, since YOU ALREADY PAY THEM FOR IT BY PAYING THE EQUAL (EQUAL MEANS IT'S ENOUGH!) FEE.

there is still a lot to be said about DRM, but you have a mind and you can think by yourself.
Sorry for my english, i'm Italian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>confusion:<br />
you buy an album by X shop and it will play 100 times.<br />
you buy an album by Y shop and it cannot be recored.<br />
you buy a move by Z shop but it can be copied 3 times, but just on special dvd.<br />
You downloaded an adware-album by D shop but you have to login again on their site to be able to maintain the license.<br />
nice collection isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>cross platforming:<br />
that X mp3 is not playable on linux because of patents on mp3 format in the USA<br />
that Y mp3 is not playable on winodws because of some incompatibility problem (random!)<br />
that Z mp3 cannot be played on other players but Ipod of the moment<br />
that D mp3 cannot be downloaded\played because the software for download\playing is not available for V operative system<br />
how many OS\device must I have?</p>
<p>distribution:<br />
Major X has just removed your X favourite artist from the site you have an account because they want a different DRM<br />
Major Y has just removed your X favourite movie from the site you have an account because they want to make money by themselves<br />
Major Z has just removed your X favourite band from the site you have an account because few was downloading it or for any other reason you don&#8217;t have to care about<br />
how many account you need to do?</p>
<p>privacy:<br />
An X operative system notice that you changed a lot of hardware. you have to re-activate.<br />
An Y file is found shared on the net. A unique serial number say You, Mr. X Y, are the first seeder of it. Get a good advocate.<br />
A Z DRM system installs S rootkit full of vunerabilities without your agreement. You always need their agreement but they don&#8217;t.<br />
your Y flat internet contract has been found downloading &#8220;too much&#8221;; you&#8217;re banned and have to refund the ISP (this is also DRM too, they decide your &#8220;rights&#8221;)<br />
You buy D phone, but you have to use it as it has been designed for, otherwise it will stop at all. Sorry you can&#8217;t use it like an vibrating &#8230; probe. Not allowed.</p>
<p>financing who?<br />
maphia. (corporation, politicians, Internet service providers..)</p>
<p>now I&#8217;m bored of writing.<br />
DRM SUX, badly.<br />
It&#8217;s firstly a matter of freedom, then of interoperability, respect, and mind sanity.<br />
A guy with self-respect just don&#8217;t choose DRM.<br />
Who likes the ARTIST doesn&#8217;t buy DRM: why?<br />
You are financing MAJORS, not artists. Majors just wan to make money using artists work, abuseing you, your money and your time, making evil pacts with other corporations and powerful politicians.<br />
Are you blind or something? Just analize reality and you see DRM is just a part of the BIG BROTHER \ MASS CONTROL project.<br />
Care about your freedom, your RIGHTS!<br />
right to have fair use, right to share it with your family, right to make a backup copy. DO THEY RESPECT YOUR RIGHTS? NO.</p>
<p>NOT TO MENTION THAT YOU ALREADY PAY FROM YEARS &#8220;EQUAL FEE&#8221;, which by itself should be already enough to make your free to use their media, since YOU ALREADY PAY THEM FOR IT BY PAYING THE EQUAL (EQUAL MEANS IT&#8217;S ENOUGH!) FEE.</p>
<p>there is still a lot to be said about DRM, but you have a mind and you can think by yourself.<br />
Sorry for my english, i&#8217;m Italian.
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		<title>by: HR</title>
		<link>http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/08/24/birdsong-a-requiem-for-drm/#comment-24164</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 10:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/08/24/birdsong-a-requiem-for-drm/#comment-24164</guid>
					<description>David Campbell says: "The customer’s wouldn’t have the opinion that they were being taken advantage of."

Yeah... keep them ignorant so that they don't complain they are being ripped off, because they won't even know. 

This, combined with the cries from the big studios like "now that people can buy single songs they won't buy the whole album which only has 2 good songs and the rest is crap" is what makes people hate them and the artists who defend them (which are usually the ones releasing crap)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Campbell says: &#8220;The customer’s wouldn’t have the opinion that they were being taken advantage of.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah&#8230; keep them ignorant so that they don&#8217;t complain they are being ripped off, because they won&#8217;t even know. </p>
<p>This, combined with the cries from the big studios like &#8220;now that people can buy single songs they won&#8217;t buy the whole album which only has 2 good songs and the rest is crap&#8221; is what makes people hate them and the artists who defend them (which are usually the ones releasing crap)
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		<title>by: yovko in a nutshell &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Реквием за DRM</title>
		<link>http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/08/24/birdsong-a-requiem-for-drm/#comment-24148</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 08:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/08/24/birdsong-a-requiem-for-drm/#comment-24148</guid>
					<description>[...] Red Hat обявявиха началото на края на DRM - по своеобразен за тях начин - предлагайки видеоанимация-прототип, наречена Реквием за DRM. Публикувана е като свободно произведение под Creative Commons Признание - Некомерсиално - Споделяне на споделеното, заедно със съставните и компоненти и провокация към всички за модификации и ремиксиране. ;-) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Red Hat обявявиха началото на края на DRM - по своеобразен за тях начин - предлагайки видеоанимация-прототип, наречена Реквием за DRM. Публикувана е като свободно произведение под Creative Commons Признание - Некомерсиално - Споделяне на споделеното, заедно със съставните и компоненти и провокация към всички за модификации и ремиксиране. ;-) [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Defending Scoundrels</title>
		<link>http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/08/24/birdsong-a-requiem-for-drm/#comment-24125</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 04:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/08/24/birdsong-a-requiem-for-drm/#comment-24125</guid>
					<description>&lt;strong&gt;Bird Song: A Requiem for DRM&lt;/strong&gt;

By way of Jessica Coates and the Creative Commons blog, I have discovered a beautifully produced and remarkably insightful cartoon by the folks at RedHat, to celebrate the beginning of the end of DRM.&#160; While I wouldn't make that claim...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Bird Song: A Requiem for DRM</strong></p>
<p>By way of Jessica Coates and the Creative Commons blog, I have discovered a beautifully produced and remarkably insightful cartoon by the folks at RedHat, to celebrate the beginning of the end of DRM.&nbsp; While I wouldn&#8217;t make that claim&#8230;
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		<title>by: Red Hat and “Bird Song: A Cartoon Requiem for DRM” - Creative Commons</title>
		<link>http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/08/24/birdsong-a-requiem-for-drm/#comment-23808</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 01:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/08/24/birdsong-a-requiem-for-drm/#comment-23808</guid>
					<description>[...] A bit late (exactly a month in fact), but in case you missed it the first time as well, Red Hat posted an amazing short about DRM titled &#8220;Bird Song: A Cartoon Requiem for DRM&#8221;. Its a beautifully made animation and Red Hat has gone the distance in licensing the different elements under a CC BY-NC-SA licence. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] A bit late (exactly a month in fact), but in case you missed it the first time as well, Red Hat posted an amazing short about DRM titled &#8220;Bird Song: A Cartoon Requiem for DRM&#8221;. Its a beautifully made animation and Red Hat has gone the distance in licensing the different elements under a CC BY-NC-SA licence. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/08/24/birdsong-a-requiem-for-drm/#comment-22662</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/08/24/birdsong-a-requiem-for-drm/#comment-22662</guid>
					<description>I am all for Artists and the company they work for. For me 
I used to listen to a lot of music, and bought lots of Records, Tapes and CD's. I don't buy as much new music, mainly because most of the new stuff suck in my humble opinion. But when I do hear something I really like I buy it. I have ripped all my CD's and use the MP3's for my own personal use, and have only downloaded MP3's from albums I own in Record or Tape format, I don't think there is anything wrong with that. What really gets my shorts in a knot is the DRM on Video products, such as VHS and DVD. I used to collect movies, and discovered quite a while back that I could not convert my VHS tapes to DVD because of macrovision, and the numberous VHS players I discarded because they could not track properly, or would not play audio properly was due to Macrovision. Recently Sony put root kits on it's DVD's and since it is supposed to be illegal to use the decription library for linux I am supposed to allow my Windows computer to become infected. I do not sell or distribute artists work, and I don't steal it, I would just like to play their music and watch their movies legaly on my linux workstation, or a windows machine without being infected by nefarious software or be required to connect to the internet to verify the license to enjoy the product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am all for Artists and the company they work for. For me<br />
I used to listen to a lot of music, and bought lots of Records, Tapes and CD&#8217;s. I don&#8217;t buy as much new music, mainly because most of the new stuff suck in my humble opinion. But when I do hear something I really like I buy it. I have ripped all my CD&#8217;s and use the MP3&#8217;s for my own personal use, and have only downloaded MP3&#8217;s from albums I own in Record or Tape format, I don&#8217;t think there is anything wrong with that. What really gets my shorts in a knot is the DRM on Video products, such as VHS and DVD. I used to collect movies, and discovered quite a while back that I could not convert my VHS tapes to DVD because of macrovision, and the numberous VHS players I discarded because they could not track properly, or would not play audio properly was due to Macrovision. Recently Sony put root kits on it&#8217;s DVD&#8217;s and since it is supposed to be illegal to use the decription library for linux I am supposed to allow my Windows computer to become infected. I do not sell or distribute artists work, and I don&#8217;t steal it, I would just like to play their music and watch their movies legaly on my linux workstation, or a windows machine without being infected by nefarious software or be required to connect to the internet to verify the license to enjoy the product.
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		<title>by: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/08/24/birdsong-a-requiem-for-drm/#comment-22576</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/08/24/birdsong-a-requiem-for-drm/#comment-22576</guid>
					<description>Roger, well put.

I have no issue paying for the music that I want to listen to. What bothers me is this. I buy the music with rights to back it up, burn a cd, listen to it forever (assuming that the licensing site is still around to validate my DRM license when I play it). What I can't do is download it more than 3 times (Napster limit) or let me wife listen to it on her computer.

Upgrade your computer a couple of times and your out of downloads. Copying the files don't work because the DRM implementation SUCKS and gets in the way.

I don't want to give everyone my music. They can but it like  I did, that's only fair for the artists. My bought CD's don't stop working after I put them in 3 different players. Give me the MP3s the same way.

Something easier is the key.

:Jeff steps down from his soap box now:

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger, well put.</p>
<p>I have no issue paying for the music that I want to listen to. What bothers me is this. I buy the music with rights to back it up, burn a cd, listen to it forever (assuming that the licensing site is still around to validate my DRM license when I play it). What I can&#8217;t do is download it more than 3 times (Napster limit) or let me wife listen to it on her computer.</p>
<p>Upgrade your computer a couple of times and your out of downloads. Copying the files don&#8217;t work because the DRM implementation SUCKS and gets in the way.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to give everyone my music. They can but it like  I did, that&#8217;s only fair for the artists. My bought CD&#8217;s don&#8217;t stop working after I put them in 3 different players. Give me the MP3s the same way.</p>
<p>Something easier is the key.</p>
<p>:Jeff steps down from his soap box now:
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		<title>by: kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/08/24/birdsong-a-requiem-for-drm/#comment-22499</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 11:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/08/24/birdsong-a-requiem-for-drm/#comment-22499</guid>
					<description>Some folks here are assuming that all musicians have or "deserve" to be paid for their hard work.  To get away from such big-label rhetoric some of us are embracing alternative licenses like Creative Commons. 

Please be careful not to use too wide a brush when painting scenarios and forming arguments against p2p and file sharing. We use p2p for sharing our music legitimately through Jamendo and other trackers.  

As for DRM, we've been fighting on many fronts, the most insidious imho is the automatic encapsulation of DRM on some portable audio players.

If you think DRM is a good practice try looking up "sony rootkit" on google, or read Cory's views online, he has it pretty much nailed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some folks here are assuming that all musicians have or &#8220;deserve&#8221; to be paid for their hard work.  To get away from such big-label rhetoric some of us are embracing alternative licenses like Creative Commons. </p>
<p>Please be careful not to use too wide a brush when painting scenarios and forming arguments against p2p and file sharing. We use p2p for sharing our music legitimately through Jamendo and other trackers.  </p>
<p>As for DRM, we&#8217;ve been fighting on many fronts, the most insidious imho is the automatic encapsulation of DRM on some portable audio players.</p>
<p>If you think DRM is a good practice try looking up &#8220;sony rootkit&#8221; on google, or read Cory&#8217;s views online, he has it pretty much nailed.
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